tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8965939.post110727992267577274..comments2023-10-25T06:27:02.977-05:00Comments on Ryan the Angry Midget and Friends: Weapons of Mass Destruction?Ryan the Angry Midgethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09120313107611992640noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8965939.post-1107372223264497682005-02-02T13:23:00.000-06:002005-02-02T13:23:00.000-06:00Jeff Said:
On the Mark admonished me for my state...Jeff Said:<br /><br />On the Mark admonished me for my statement about American being killed and maimed for a lie. He correctly pointed out the actual definition of a lie. He is right; I haven't seen any hard evidence--yet--that the President has concealed information that Congress wasn't privy to or that he intentionally falsified information. When I start talking about politics I lose my restraint and get alittle overboard sometimes. So, I'd like to amend my final sentence. Here goes... If thousands of Americans were killed and wounded because of a clusterfuck of historic proportions that I was presiding over, I'd feel guilty too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8965939.post-1107353159580364952005-02-02T08:05:00.000-06:002005-02-02T08:05:00.000-06:00On the Mark, many Democrats in Congress may have v...On the Mark, many Democrats in Congress may have voted for the war, but that does not automatically absolve George W. Bush or his administration from any sins. Colin Powell went before the U.N. to 'prove' that Iraq had WMDs. Bush spoke to anyone who would listen, saying that they had WMDs. The Democrats believed the 'misinformation,' but they're not the ones who started the campaign for war. The Bush administration stumped for the war first, brought the 'intelligence' first, and when the test of time comes, they will take the fall first.Lord Blinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13309529830363457895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8965939.post-1107312745600830232005-02-01T20:52:00.000-06:002005-02-01T20:52:00.000-06:00Not exactly related to today's discussion, but a f...Not exactly related to today's discussion, but a follow-up on a previous Midget topic. Here's a quote from an article on CNN regarding the third, yes THIRD, journalist to come forward and admit to being paid by W & Company to "promote" the administration's policies:<br /><br />"Earlier this week, Bush ordered his Cabinet secretaries not to hire columnists to promote administration agendas." Link: www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/28/paid.columnists.ap/index.html<br /><br />WHAT?!?!?! Has it really sunk it this level? Screw moving to California, I think I'll head for Canada. I don't think that's on the Axis of Evil yet.<br /><br />g.p. amy<br /><br />(There's also a nice article about the new bill being introduced: www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/26/paid.pundits/index.html)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8965939.post-1107308663474838612005-02-01T19:44:00.000-06:002005-02-01T19:44:00.000-06:00Let me extend the exaulted Midget's comments by ad...Let me extend the exaulted Midget's comments by adding one thing. The next time I hear a Republican justify the war in Iraq by saying "At least we got rid of a brutal dictator," I'm going to shit a cheese sandwich.<br /><br />There are 2 separate, but equally fatal, problems with this logic. To wit:<br /><br />1. THAT'S NOT WHY WE WERE TOLD WE WERE FIGHTING THIS WAR. Remember in "O Brother Where Art Thou" when the other two guys found out, whereas Dr. Pretty, M.D. encouraged them to escape with him with promises of treasure, there was no treasure, but Dr. Pretty needed to escape to stop his wife's wedding? Remember how pissed those guys were? And it's not that they were pissed because breaking out of jail is a bad thing---obviously, they were in a better place now than they had been. No. They were pissed because people don't like it when you lie to them about your motives in order to convice them to go along with you. Same thing here. Pick a reason, and let's go with it. And this is important because, if GWB II had tried to lead American to war behind "This guy is a real jack-off" rather than "This guy might soon kill you and everyone you loved," support for the Iraq war would have peaked at about 33%, rather than 75%, and GWB II would now be preparing his memoirs, tentatively entitled "See George Run the Country into the Ground."<br /><br />2. IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, SADDAM WAS REALLY NOT THAT BAD. Now, I know you're saying, "Ben, c'mon. You really can't be serious." Oh yes. I'm serious. If Americans would actually read INTERNATIONAL news, rather than American news ("At 11, a dancing bear with no pants on, and a waterskiing squirrel!"), you'd have some concept of how many truly evil people there are out there running countries. And remember this: in Saddam's Iraq, women could be educated, have jobs, walk in public without their husbands/fathers, and expose their faces. There are a number of Arabic countries [cough Saudia Arabia cough] where this kind of freedom is unthinkable. So if the justification for removing Saddam was that he was a dick, he should have been about 11th on the list.<br /><br />Thomas Jefferson was right: in a democracy, the people get the leadership they deserve. A nation of fat, NASCAR worshipping, reborn Baptist Hooters customers deserves GWB II as their President. I just want to get off the ride.<br /><br />/Anyone going to CA?<br />/Ben out.Ben Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06977146565248223119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8965939.post-1107300926102041992005-02-01T17:35:00.000-06:002005-02-01T17:35:00.000-06:00Jeff Said:
What amuses me is that we don't have a ...Jeff Said:<br />What amuses me is that we don't have a situation where statements are being made like: "Oh, we overestimated the number of weapons of mass destruction." or "There weren't as many weapons of mass destruction as we expected." That would have made me keep my mouth shut. Hell, if they'd have found a camel with a case of mustard gas artillery shells strapped to its back, I might have backed down. But for crying out loud, I have yet to hear of a SINGLE WMD being brought into the public light. Now, my memory isn't what it used to be, but I distinctly recall the phrase "imminent threat" being thrown around in reference to Iraq. (And don't deny it because one of the Cronies--Donald or Dick--already tried that and got shown up as a liar when MoveOnPac.org aired taped footage from more than one television spot that proved that phrase was used). And there were those ominous insinuations that one day within the next few years we could get nailed with a missile or bomb from Iraq whose warhead contained poison gas or a thermonuclear device or God knows what. So the whole premise for not waiting to invade and unilaterally charging off to war was: If we don't rush in there when our ultimatum to surrender expires, we're just asking for the end of Western Civilization as we know it. I used to think only meterologists could be that dead wrong and not be so totally embarrassed that they want to take up Southwest Airline's offer to get away for a while. I wonder how many U.S. servicemen and Iraqi civilians have been killed or maimed by the now too common improvised explosive devices (IEDs). Maybe the number qualifies them as WMDs. I'll bet those mean ole Iraqi terrorists would have a hell of lot more difficulty getting IEDs close enough to Americans to kill them if we had stayed home. You know the first thing I thought when I heard that George W. wanted to increase the military death benefit to $100K? Blood money. If I got several thousand Americans killed and wounded for a lie, I'd feel damned guilty myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8965939.post-1107300277819722322005-02-01T17:24:00.000-06:002005-02-01T17:24:00.000-06:00Oh Angry One, you forgot to mention Bush's Inaugur...Oh Angry One, you forgot to mention Bush's Inaugural Address, and how he's going to spread democracy throughout the rest of the world. We're spread so thin in Iraq right now ... I have no idea how he thinks he's going to do the same thing in other nations. And what about nations that aren't democracies, but aren't 'enemies' of ours? Doesn't that sound just a little condescending to them? Our way may not be the best way for other countries, and Bush is too worried about his legacy to notice, or to care. And when he's finally out of office, and some time passes, his only legacy will be one of increasing our deficit in ways that Ronald Reagan couldn't have even imagined.<br /><br />It was once said about Nixon, and it will someday be said about George W: Time heals all wounds, and wounds all heels.Lord Blinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13309529830363457895noreply@blogger.com