Featuring the Commentary of Lord Bling, Leptodactylus, CowboyLaw, and Ryan the Angry Midget
How do you manage to confuse racial status with criminal status? I guess I'm a criminalist since I'm against criminals. I'm not a racist, however, as I discriminate against criminals no matter what their race.
Making English the official language is where my 'racist' comment was coming from. It's a xenophobic response. People can legislate whatever they want, but if Spanish-speaking people outnumber the English-speaking ones, there isn't much that can be done about it, especially if the Spanish-speakers are here legally.
PTG, the conservative Foreign Affairs journal had in their lead article, "Immigration Nation," some interesting stats on how certain percentages of legals and illegals are of universal benefit to all. (Same could be said of Turks and Africans in Western Europe.) There's worthwhile arguments to be made over the KIND of bracero program, amnesty, and border control to be enacted, but yes, towns like Farmers Branch who just sling the word "illegals" around without getting into nitty gritty of legal and illegal immigration, can be said to be "racist." And I don't think it works to call yourself a "criminalist." Universal enforcement of pot or traffic laws would put half the nation in jail. You need to look at all these issues from a practical sense, not banning everyone.
As a legal Hispanic, born and raised in the US, I have to say that all this is bullshit. Why are we not just enforcing the laws that are already on the books? At this point, this argument has made it okay to not only come out as a biggot, but as a hypocrite as well. I don't care how you try to slice it, at some point, we have all benefited from the cheap labor that "illegals" provide to this country. Whether it's the $3 head of lettuce you buy or a huge dividend pay off from corporate stocks, in some way, you have benefited from them. They have also helped to keep the Social Security system in place long enough to pay for the baby boomers. There are numerous fake social security numbers out there, that are being paid into, but will never be cashed out which is why the system survives, albeit barely, to this day. I am not advocating that we open the borders up and have a free for all, but I just don't see the point behind demonizing a people that come here for the same reason anglos did. To escape oppressive situations and better the lives of themselves and their children. Whether by hook or by crook, they are here now and we have to find a humane way of dealing the ones that are here without turning them into second class citizens. I just hope that we are not to the point that this errupts into an all out assault. But, to say that the "die has already been cast," would be an understatement, I think.
hcp, I agree completely. And, if our borders weren't so porous, there wouldn't be an immigration problem.
Right hcp, and if all our other laws weren't so easy to break, we wouldn't have a crime problem.
I'm not saying that laws aren't broken. I'm saying that making new laws to enforce old ones is a complete waste of time. Why bother making laws at all? The problem is NOT in the laws. The problem is in the execution and funding of the enforcement of said laws. So now, not only did I pay some bureacratic asshole to make the original law, I now have to pay ANOTHER asshole to make up another law to replace the old one that would have worked fine had it been funded and enforced in the first place. But who am I to advocate that we raise taxes to pay for more border security. Let's just put up a $6 billion wall. But you have a big, "I told you so," coming when Mexicans figure out the complex system that is a boat. I have an idea! Let's hold a special election and everyone in favor of the wall can be taxed extra every year to help pay for it! I'll wait to pay for that wall across Canada.
ptg, unless you're commenting on human nature in general, I don't think it's the same thing.
Laws change faster than human nature. In fact, I doubt if human nature has changed perceptibly since the beginning of recorded history.
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